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King_of_Glass
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OT: Very Touchy Subject...The Election Results Thus Far
Posted on: 11/06/2020 12:25 PM

I realize I'm treading on "dangerous" territory with the subject matter of the presidential election. It's such a huge issue for most everyone here who lives in the United States. With that having been said, the following is what I believe the final outcome will be.

It appears that former Vice President Biden will be the winner of the 2020 election. That is for now. However, it is my belief that he will not be president when all is said and done. The winner will actually be Donald Trump. It may take several months to iron it all out, but President Trump will be declared the ultimate winner by the Supreme Court. How can this be? Election fraud deluxe, and it will be exposed for the whole world to see. I'm so confident that I'm willing to bet my extremely rare maroon-colored America letterman jacket identical to the ones the former trio members are wearing ON THIS ABLUM COVER for anyone's "Half Century" box set that I have yet to purchase and most likely won't.
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Re: OT: Very Touchy Subject...The Election Results Thus Far
Posted on: 11/07/2020 05:09 AM

Can someone please say, "watermark, blockchain or encryption"?
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GirlFromOz
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Re: OT: Very Touchy Subject...The Election Results Thus Far
Posted on: 11/09/2020 08:22 PM

Hi KoG,

I don't have the boxed set and if I ordered it immediately I am unlikely to receive it before Biden is declared the winner so unfortunately cannot take up your challenge.

I realise there is no point in trying to apply logic in this situation but I do have some questions for you.

Why is the Trump administration wasting funds and time in challenging the count only in states where Trump is behind, and where there is no evidence of voter fraud? Surely if there was widespread fraud ALL results would need to be challenged.

If there was widespread fraud, how does that explain the fact that Republicans picked up House seats and performed well in the Senate?

What do you think should be done with all the votes for the Republican candidate in North Dakota who was elected despite having died from coronavirus a month before the election?

What do you think about Benjamin Ginsberg's comments about the need for the Justice Department to remain apolitical?

I lived in the US for nine years. It has saddened me deeply to see the damage Trump and his cronies have done to your country, especially in their total disregard for the health of US citizens by completely mismanaging the coronavirus pandemic.

I am not sure if you are aware of the huge sigh of relief felt by the rest of the world in seeing the end of the Trump presidency, but trust me, it exists.

I know this is not a political blog, and I won't be adding to these remarks.

Regards,

Jude


Edited by GirlFromOz on 11/09/2020 08:29 PM
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King_of_Glass
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Re: OT: Very Touchy Subject...The Election Results Thus Far
Posted on: 11/09/2020 11:40 PM

Jude,

I just submitted you a response; however, I accidently deleted it instead. :(

I will re-submit it tomorrow.
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Re: OT: Very Touchy Subject...The Election Results Thus Far
Posted on: 11/10/2020 12:56 AM



Jude - I think I will answer the matter about the bet now, however.

No problem regarding not having the box set. I will still offer up my America letterman jacket to you with you not having to put up a single America item since you are the only person to respond! That's how confident I am that Vice President Biden will not be the president in 2021. Trump will be serving his second term instead. Truthfully, if someone had the box set and had accepted my offer, I really wouldn't have taken it from them if they had lost.

However, I am so confident that Trump will be the president in 2021, I will even include the following:

1) My "Hearts" album with the cover signed by Dewey, Gerry AND Dan!

2) Plus This Item

3) And, This Baby!

The outcome should be very interesting!

P.S. I forgot. Plus a pink hat with a red, white and blue America logo patch on the front of it. If I had a pair of America pants, I'd include them, too, but I don't think such an item exists. Not that I know of, anyway. :)

Edited by King_of_Glass on 11/10/2020 01:24 AM
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King_of_Glass
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Re: OT: Very Touchy Subject...The Election Results Thus Far
Posted on: 11/10/2020 12:51 PM

[Why is the Trump administration wasting funds and time in challenging the count only in states where Trump is behind, and where there is no evidence of voter fraud? Surely if there was widespread fraud ALL results would need to be challenged.]

I'm not sure if I'm understanding your question correctly, but I'll answer according to what I think you're asking. Why would Trump need to challenge the count in states where he isn't behind? That would be a waste of funds and time. As far as "no evidence of voter fraud," that's according to whom? The fake news media as Trump puts it? Trump's administration is saying they have the proof of voter fraud in numerous states. They wouldn't be pursing this if they didn't believe they have the proof, and the whole world will see the proof when the Supreme Court agrees to look at it and surely they will because I believe the evidence is there. Thus far, about 70 people have come forward to sign sworn affidavits stating they witnessed voter fraud. Some Republican poll watchers are alleging intimidation by the opposing party's election workers. Let us not forget the postal worker who has come forward as a whistleblower regarding his supervisor telling him and other workers to backdate submitted ballots that came in after the deadline. So, let's just be patient and let it all play out. As I mentioned in my earlier posting, this will probably drag out for several months. Perhaps, it will go all the way until a day or two before the inauguration which is the length of time I believe it may take.

[If there was widespread fraud, how does that explain the fact that Republicans picked up House seats and performed well in the Senate?]

There are allegations of fraud in some of the other races as well. Just because some Republicans won their race, it doesn't mean there wasn't fraud in Trump's election race. It's alleged that numerous ballots had only one vote marked all them, and they were marked as voting for Biden.

[What do you think should be done with all the votes for the Republican candidate in North Dakota who was elected despite having died from coronavirus a month before the election?]

The deceased candidate's seat should be filled by his district's Republican Party. It should be treated as if he were in office and had retired or had been removed for some reason. His seat still belongs to his party. That is how it is done in my state which is the State of New Mexico.

[What do you think about Benjamin Ginsberg's comments about the need for the Justice Department to remain apolitical?]

I'm not familiar with what all Ginsburg said, but just on what you stated, I disagree with him. In my opinion, the DOJ should absolutely be involved in something as important and huge as the presidential election.

[I lived in the US for nine years. It has saddened me deeply to see the damage Trump and his cronies have done to your country, especially in their total disregard for the health of US citizens by completely mismanaging the coronavirus pandemic.]

Jude, that is your opinion and you are absolutely entitled to it. Millions of people (Trump supporters such as myself) disagree with your opinion. It's my understanding that a vaccine will be available by the end of the year. As I'm sure you know, New York Governor Cuomo sent numerous elderly Corona patients back to their nursing homes instead of to the medical ship that Trump provided to the governor. Trump had manufacturing companies make many respirators and ventilators. He had car manufacturing companies convert their machinery to do that.

[I am not sure if you are aware of the huge sigh of relief felt by the rest of the world in seeing the end of the Trump presidency, but trust me, it exists.]

It doesn't concern me what other countries think of President Trump. Millions of his supporters here in the United States think he has done an incredible job in his first four years. You notice that I said "first four years". He will have a second term, and it will begin in January of 2021.

[I know this is not a political blog, and I won't be adding to these remarks.]

This may not be a political blog, but since very little activity occurs here these days, I don't see any problems posting here. It's just one subject matter on one thread. If fellow fans have an issue with it, so be it.

And, one other thing. So we are to believe that VP Biden won the election when he had only a handful of supporters attending his rallies compared to President Trump's rallies? Trump had so many supporters at his rallies that many, many attendees had to be turned away. Things don't add up, and Trump and his administration aren't going to let Vice President Biden and his team get away with it. I believe many people will be going to prison after all is said and done.
Edited by King_of_Glass on 11/10/2020 01:37 PM
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Re: OT: Very Touchy Subject...The Election Results Thus Far
Posted on: 11/10/2020 08:54 PM

What the...

Someone Please Explain This To Me!
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Re: OT: Very Touchy Subject...The Election Results Thus Far
Posted on: 11/13/2020 12:37 PM

Anyone else want to accept my bet/challenge regarding who will be the final victor in the presidential race? I, of course, still say it will be Trump. If you think it will be Biden, you don't have to put up a single thing to bet. Like with Jude, all you have to do is post that you accept the bet, and if I'm wrong when all is said and done, you will take away from me:

1) A brand new "Hearts" songbook

2) A set of new drumsticks with the America logo printed on them from the "Your Move" time period

3) A brand new drumhead autographed in blue by Gerry and Dewey

4) My America "Greatest Hits" LP with the cover signed by Dewey, Gerry AND Dan

5) And, This Extremely Rare America Item
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Re: OT: Very Touchy Subject...The Election Results Thus Far
Posted on: 11/19/2020 01:19 AM

Jude - Below is a good summation of the fraud that the Trump team is alleging as you had serious doubt of its occurrence. I do realize it's being presented by President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani.

To again address your question as follows: "If there was widespread fraud, how does that explain the fact that Republicans picked up House seats and performed well in the Senate?"

Answer: I take the term "widespread fraud" to mean that fraud occurred in a number of states. As I understand it, thousands (in some cases even hundreds of thousands) of ballots were fraudulently filled out in a rush. They only had time to fill out the presidential voting portion of the ballots while leaving the down ballot portion totally blank.

I like to view some videos (such as this one) with the CLOSED CAPTION option enabled.

Summation of Presidential Election Fraud

If you don't feel that Giuliani is credible then we'll just wait and see how everything plays out in the next month or two. As I mentioned in my earlier posting, it may run all the way until January 18th.
Edited by King_of_Glass on 11/19/2020 01:32 AM
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Re: OT: Very Touchy Subject...The Election Results Thus Far
Posted on: 11/19/2020 11:16 PM

Hi KoG,

Apologies to the owners of this blog who may not want it to include political content.

So, I’ll call it early…for Biden 😊

There is no need for you to package up all the America memorabilia you have offered to send to me. I would never want you to sacrifice it.

Clearly Trump’s strategy is directed at the 2024 campaign. He wants his supporters to believe the 2020 election was stolen from him. He is not interested in what he can do for his country. He only cares for himself. His actions should be taken very seriously because they are a threat to democracy. He wants to disenfranchise thousands of voters, most of them in Black communities.

If Trump wanted to be a leader, why is he not out there, leading?

Your statement about more people attending Trump rallies is correct but does not indicate wider support for him nationally. Biden held rallies where attendance was deliberately limited because of the risk of contracting coronavirus. I think this is far more responsible than encouraging thousands of people to attend rallies where they are not wearing masks and not social distancing. Trump’s disregard for the health of his supporters and staff is disgraceful. When he became ill with coronavirus, he was lucky that he received treatment that is simply not available to any other US citizen. Look at the current infection and death statistics to see how irresponsible this attitude is.

Then there’s Rudy Giuliani and his wild QAnon conspiracies. I watched the video you linked. And the subsequent press conference where he and others repeated the bizarre claims he made in the video. Food trucks! No evidence provided because there isn’t any. That’s where the fraud really is. I cannot understand the motivations of these people. What a waste of time. Dominion is an American company that has no connection to Venezuela. Chavez is long dead. Embarrassing.

I read some of the ‘evidence’ of voter fraud. One I particularly liked was from a witness who noticed that votes from the military that she/he saw counted were heavily for Biden. This apparently was suspicious (fraudulent?) because this person believed that the military usually votes conservative. The fact that Trump calls soldiers who died fighting for his country ‘losers’ may have had something to do with this trend to Biden.

The video of Biden that you linked was a few seconds taken from a longer statement where he was talking about preventing voter suppression (classic cherry picking). He clearly misspoke. If you watch the entire statement you will see this. Biden has been ridiculed for his speech impediment (including by Trump himself). What message does that send to all people with disabilities? That they are open to ridicule?

There are many resources available that go into detailed debunking of misinformation and conspiracy theories. Problem is that repetition of a falsehood can morph it into a ‘fact’. It’s a well-known rhetorical tactic. Unfortunately, the internet has enabled peddlers of misinformation to flourish and convince people that what they say is true. It is the path to fascism.

Voltaire: “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities”

Hope the Biden years are good for you and all Americans.

Cheers,

Jude

Edited by GirlFromOz on 11/19/2020 11:21 PM
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King_of_Glass
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Re: OT: Very Touchy Subject...The Election Results Thus Far
Posted on: 11/20/2020 05:03 AM

Hi Jude - I enjoyed reading your response. Thank you for being so kind in not wanting to take my America items from me. I appreciate that. However, that would not be happening anyway because of the upcoming outcome. It's about 3:00 AM here at the moment so I should be heading to bed, but I just wanted to say a few words here before I do.

I also appreciate your firm stance of support of VP Biden. I truly enjoy a robust debate especially one that is as civil as you have been with me. By the way, I don't think Rich Campbell minds us discussing this matter here. I surely hope not, anyway. My guess is he probably would side with you on this matter. Dewey and Gerry probably would as well. I must say you and I could not be any more diametrically opposed in our political belief as you well know. I stand firm in my belief that President Trump will be the victor of this presidential election. I will go so far as to say Vice President Joe Biden will be going to prison as well as many others.

I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding the need for mask wearing. I think Trump was highly mistaken in his neglect of not doing so, and he was had to pay the consequence. I wear a mask every time I'm out in the public. It's foolish not to!

If you are able to post a link to the entire video of VP Biden discussing the preventing of voter suppression, I'd greatly appreciate it.

It won't be but a few more months at the most when we all will see what the truth really is and whether you or I am correct. I said perhaps by January 18. I believe by that time the evidence of an attempted theft of a presidential election will surface, and it will stun the whole world. The question is will the truth be believed?

I'll leave you and everyone else here a very interesting video that sums up exactly what I believe will occur:

Click Here To View
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King_of_Glass
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Re: OT: Very Touchy Subject...The Election Results Thus Far
Posted on: 11/20/2020 03:18 PM

Jude - It seems that the video I linked in my previous message didn't start from the beginning but started well past the middle. I just wanted to mention that as it's very important to view it from the very start.

A couple of questions if I may. I hope it's not too personal - my asking you the following:

1) Do you have any particular religion belief? I'm asking only because I believe it's important to what I hope to discuss with you further on this presidential election topic.

2) If you are a believer in God, do you think it matters to Him which of the two presidential candidates leads America for the next four years?

3) Do you believe in the existence of modern day prophets? Some call them "ministers of prophecy" or "vessels" through whom God gives messages so they may be forwarded to His believers. As for myself, I believe in the existence of God and Jesus as the Messiah.

Again, I hope I'm not getting too personal.
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Re: OT: Very Touchy Subject...The Election Results Thus Far
Posted on: 11/21/2020 03:01 AM

Hi KoG,

I listened to the podcast that you linked and there is nothing new to me there. It’s a repeat of the Giuliani/QAnon unproven and bizarre claims.

Re the Biden video, there are many places to go to read about what Biden said, but here’s the link to the article in The Washington Post where they put his interview side by side with the edited video: https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/no-biden-did-not-brag-about-committing-voter-fraud/2020/11/04/dadb8616-3718-45a1-baeb-7c2fa50c7aa7_video.html

And here’s the link to the complete interview, with transcript: https://crooked.com/podcast/joe-biden-pod-save-america-interview/

And sorry, you'll need to copy and paste the links. I have long forgotten how to rename and link them.

And regarding your question about my beliefs, I do not believe in any god.

Cheers,

Jude

Edited by GirlFromOz on 11/21/2020 03:03 AM
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Re: OT: Very Touchy Subject...The Election Results Thus Far
Posted on: 11/22/2020 12:28 AM

Hello again, Jude!

Thank you for the link to the video where VP Biden is talking about the fraud organization that the Democratic party has in place. Thanks to your direction, I do see that he merely misspoke. He should have said something more like, "fraud PREVENTION organization".

Thank you very much for sharing with me/us your religious belief/unbelief. Truly, I was hoping you were a believer in God and Jesus ... most importantly for salvation purposes, of course, but for the lesser reason ... so it would better help you to understand the three YouTube videos I am posting here. It is my hope that you and others here will watch them.

As you well know from my postings on this election results subject, I have said Trump will be the ultimate victor. I have also said it will require a decision by the Supreme Court and that it may take up to the day of January 18. Plus, I have stated that it will be determined that a fraud has indeed been perpetrated upon the American people.

Below are just three of many different YouTube videos stating why the election is not over. These three videos are of prophecy ministers who are relaying to God's believers His will for a particular election outcome. Even among Christians today, prophecy ministers (also known as prophets or vessels) are believed to be a thing of the past. I, however, believe in their existence today.

The three videos are about an hour each. My suggestion for you or anyone else here is to view all three in their entirety. By viewing them, you will see what is prophesied to be the final outcome of the election as well as why. I understand you may have no desire to view any of them. If that is the case, that's fine. When the Supreme Court makes its decision for Trump, you perhaps will go back to view the videos at that time. It is my hope that they will be a testament to you and others here that God does exist, and He cares about the political outcome of this election. And, very importantly, the viewer will see why God will not permit the Democratic Party to prevail as it will drive America towards socialism and the antichrist system. God has other plans for America. He also wants to expose the deep, deep corruption that exists in Washington. What attorney L. Lin Wood said in his YouTube video will come to pass and that includes the imprisonment of many evil politicians and office holders in the U.S. government.

Please note the date of each video. It helps to know when they were made in order to verify their validity from a prophetic standpoint:

1) CHRIS REED "Corruption and Exposure In Philadelphia"

2) DUTCH SHEETS "This Election Is Not Over"

3) HANK KUNNEMAN "A Word of Encouragement"
Edited by King_of_Glass on 11/22/2020 01:35 AM
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