America Access Backstage
America Search
Menu
Home
America Fan Blog
Dan Peek Fan Blog
Photos
Live Shows
Billboard Info
Other News
Links
Terms
America Store

Log In
Username

Password

Remember Me



Share & Bookmark Us


Bookmark and Share





What's Related
These might interest you as well
Photo Albums

Bulletin Board


googlesvcs from Data Management & Warehousing, the Data Warehousing knowledgebase and consultancy


Search Bulletin Board





Download It Now
With Bonus Tracks!




Order It Now!


Get Horse On Your Phone
Ringingphone 110x39

Buy Your Own Taylor
And Play Along


Here's The Sheetmusic

View Topic
Forums :: Dan Peek Fan Blog :: Dan's Ministry Writings

Reply Reply
Author Message
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 10/19/2014 12:48 PM

Good Morning KoG - and Whoever else might read this. On the other forum, we had a thread about reading. Well, today's the day! Gonna move through Dan's ministry writings, continuing with his several-part series on Revelation and End Times Prophecy. Time to glean whatever I can from his many years of Bible study! I'll let you know, eh?
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 10/19/2014 03:32 PM

S - Good morning/afternoon. I have read through some of Dan's writings. I feel that they are very good for a new believer. As for me, I need/want "more meat".
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 10/19/2014 08:01 PM

Good Afternoon to You KoG! I'm feeling pretty fit after my nap. Whatever I've had this weekend, I hope it's GONE!!!

I've now read all of Dan's ministry writings, except the 26-part series on Jesus. I've read 7 parts of it so far. In this series, I see him making more spelling/grammar errors, but I also see him writing sentences that I don't understand. Do you know the order in which he wrote/posted any of these? His treatises on Islam, as well as End Times Prophecy are VERY clear.

I understand why you feel his writings are milk. At the same time, I find that he uses a lot of theological terms that a non-believer or new believer wouldn't understand. It's so hard to remember the thought processes and lack of vocabulary that one had B.C. And yet, that's what we have to do. At any rate, I've enjoyed reading them, thus far.

Reviewing through recent posts on the other side, I also have realized how firmly-rooted is my understanding that it's a personal relationship that makes the difference. And perhaps my carefree, lazy MO in relationship-making colors my understanding and practices - hopefully not in a negative way! Dewey's song, "Walk in the Woods," comes to mind, and that's kinda me - with people and with Jesus. Spontaneous and informal. You know the words, "Would it matter to you if we just took a walk, to see where this path leads to?"

At any rate, I think I did glean something new about the 7 letters. Mind you, I skim almost everything I read, so holding onto content is difficult. But I think he and Catherine both got the revelation that those 7 letters are a progression of the path the "church" would take down through the ages. I've never thought of them as being a progression before. But I must say, as I take a look at current goings-on within the church, we're in the Laodicean Age! LUKEWARM. In spite of that, more people are coming to Jesus all the time!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 10/20/2014 11:23 PM

shasta But I must say, as I take a look at current goings-on within the church, we're in the Laodicean Age! LUKEWARM.


S - That is the truth! Not only that, but look at the whole world! Concerning the church, Joel Osteen's father who used to head that church there in Houston, I think would be ashamed of what his son declares from the pulpit. I used to watch the elder Osteen on TV years ago. He was a minister who preached the Word unlike the son.

Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 10/21/2014 12:49 AM

What is Joel Osteen's father's name? I don't know if I've ever heard it. Joel, I have.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 10/21/2014 09:38 AM

John Osteen. He was the founder of the church the son now leads. He passed away from kidney issues some years back.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/22/2014 05:36 PM

Good Afternoon, KoG! Well, I finally did it. What else does one do when one doesn't feel well - but read? I finished all Dan's chapters on Jesus. I found them to be quite enjoyable. A few things just whizzed over my head. But he mentioned some things I hadn't thought about that just rang true. The best example is the analogy between figs/fig trees and Israel. Tiny concept, but an eye-opener for me.

In finishing these writings, I saw how Dan was a detailed person - to the max. He had the ability to see the tiny things, research them and them illuminate them. I appreciate that. And he had me beat by a long shot in that arena!!!

Despite the fact that I can't see worth beans today, I only noticed one spelling error - if one discounts his constant spelling of "judgement." Phonetically, he's absolutely correct and it goes against the grain every time I write, "judgment." Anyhow, it's almost like he deliberately slowed down and concentrated on correctness as he progressed through this series.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/22/2014 10:55 PM

Actually, S, it may be spelled either way as "judgement" or "judgment." I can think of several other words that have two correct spellings. They're "canvas" or "canvass" and "convertible" or "convertable." Oh, there's also "collectible" or "collectable."
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/23/2014 01:14 PM

Actually, KoG........ Oh this is fun. Perhaps I'll get out of a grumpy mood, if you will allow me some teasing???

The preferred spelling is "judgment," even in my old 1937 Webster's dictionary. I thought we changed from judgEment to judgment while I was in school, and I ain't THAT old! It comes from the French, "jugEment," and I think we should have retained the E.

"Canvas" comes from Middle English, "canvas," but originally it is Latin - "cannabis." Damned stuff. No other English spelling is given.

I find "convertible" only with an I, no A. Latin root again.

You are right about "collectAble!" I learned something new! Coming from its Latin root, the A is better than the I.

Just last night I was lamenting that students are no longer required to study Latin in high school. And even teachers aren't required to study language beyond 2 years, I believe, in high school. How can you teach English if you know nothing about the other languages we borrowed from? I've taught elementary students a bit about origins and they LOVE it! Just basic learning theory: (1) you never know what's going to click in with a kid (2) the more angles you use to get information stored in the brain, the faster it can be used and the more that bit of information can be synthesized with other related bits!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/23/2014 05:53 PM

S - Looking at my old Merriam-Webster dictionary for the word "canvas," it states:

canvas (also canvass) noun: a strong cloth used esp. for making tents and sails.

canvass (also canvas) verb: to go through (a district) or to go to (persons) to solicit votes or orders for goods or to determine public opinion or sentiment.

Regarding "convertable," it refers me to "convertible" when I search online which I assume it means the latter is the correct spelling. I know I have seen the word spelled as "convertable." HERE IS AN EXAMPLE. It just goes to show that people spell words incorrectly so often that it can appear "correct."

Also, according to the above link, "mechanics" can also be spelled as "mechanix." LOL

We both learned something from these postings of ours!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/23/2014 09:53 PM

KoG, how old is your "old" dictionary? The older the better, you know. Less tripe and more literature!

Interesting about the word "convertible/convertable" as they spelled it both ways in the article! Fickle journalists.

I forgot all about the verbal meaning for "canvas." Good for you, refreshing my aging gray matter. However, my dictionary distinguishes between the noun spelling "canvas," and the verb spelling, "canvaSS." Because of my poor training in English (until I studied languages) I didn't realize words can be used with essentially the same spellings, but for different parts of speech. And I don't think I discovered that during my 7 years of Spanish. It took studying French intensively before a prof smacked me upside the head with that idea. Even studying German, it wasn't pointed out - that I recall - and I was very interested in German. So I was really paying attention!

I've seen "mechanics" spelled with an "x" at the end, but it was a title, as in your case, or a comic book or something.

Did you know, KoG, that the letter "x" can represent 3 different sounds in English??? (1) It represents the same sound as the letter "z" as in xylophone. (2) It represents the combination sounds of "ks" as in mix. (3) It represents the combination sounds of "gz" as in exact! Now isn't that a kick?

Right.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/24/2014 12:00 AM

shasta I forgot all about the verbal meaning for "canvas." Good for you, refreshing my aging gray matter.


Or, grey matter for whatever it matters. LOL

My dictionary is from the early 70s.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/24/2014 12:11 AM

shasta Did you know, KoG, that the letter "x" can represent 3 different sounds in English??? (1) It represents the same sound as the letter "z" as in xylophone. (2) It represents the combination sounds of "ks" as in mix. (3) It represents the combination sounds of "gz" as in exact! Now isn't that a kick?


Yeah, S, but hopefully not a kick in the axx!

Betcha didn't know there's a difference between the words "x-ray" and
"X ray."
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/24/2014 12:23 AM

KoG, early 70's is simply not early enough to capture the heart of the matter - aging, gray/grey or whatsomehoover. Trade the thing in for an old one!

I shouldn't like kicking the wrong end of an "axx," depending on how you wanna play with the word. If you mean the tried and true, albeit stupid, little cousin of the horse, ah, well. If you mean, on the other hand, an AX/AXE, I shouldn't like kicking the wrong end of that either. Nasty cut on the foot.

Now you're sending me back to my 1937 Webster's dictionary to find out the difference between, what was it, x-ray and X-ray? This is cruel and unusual at this time of night, doncha know?

I regret to inform you, after an exhaustive search lasting 1 minute, that my 1937 Webster's dictionary does not contain the word x-ray, only X-ray. So, you being the xpert in the subject, will just have to inform me!

Now to relate this back to the topic at hand: Dan's Ministry Writings??? I leave that with you also!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/24/2014 12:50 AM

1937! That was before the discovery of the use of X rays. Notice there's no hyphen? That's why you couldn't find anything. Just kiddin' about the discovery date.

Good night!!!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/24/2014 01:00 PM

Good Morning KoG. Did not have a good night and I'm blaming it on you! I worried the whole time about the difference between x-ray and X-ray, which you failed to inform me of!

Furthermore, and in conclusion, you didn't bring this back to the topic: Dan's Ministry Writings. I shall endeavor to do that my own self. Woke up pondering his statement that every generation has had its candidate for the anti-Christ: Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Haman, some more he mentioned whose names escape me, and some he didn't mention, like Xerxes, (there's that x thing again), the caesars, Artaxerxes, etc. He asked the question, "Who is it for this current generation?" One thing I don't remember him clarifying was the difference between the anti-Christ and his political puppet.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/25/2014 12:47 AM

Hello S - In this modern age of computers and Google, you can easily explore to see what the difference is between "x-ray" and "X ray" / "x ray". So, you should not have lost any sleep. Anyway, the former is a verb and the latter are the photons. Make sense?

Concerning the topic of "Dan's Ministry Writings," I'm glad you narrowed it down to a particular subject as I didn't know what specifically you had in mind. My thoughts about the person who is to be the future Antichrist is that he is alive today and is probably someone we know of because of his role in the world currently. I don't believe he knows his future role, however. From my studies, the person who will be the future "Man of Sin" will suffer a fatal head wound. I believe the Bible refers to this person as the "Lawless One" and the "Son of Perdition." After the AC (Antichrist) suffers his fatal head wound, Satan will enter into his body and will possess him. He will be brought back to life. This person as the AC will have a helper. It is my understanding that this person will be a religion figure and will unite the world under a "One World religion." As with what DanP believed, I think these two men (the Antichrist and the religion leader) will assume their roles after the rapture of the believers in Christ. Is this anything close to what you believe?
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/25/2014 11:32 AM

Mornin' KoG. As for what I believe; I believe I'm tired. Now if that belief lines up with truth, well and good. The truth of the matter is I didn't have a good night - again. Therefore, logically, I should be tired. I guess I'm o.k. with that belief.

A question just occurred to me: Is it possible the anti-Christ will be a woman? I mean, why does it have to be a man? O.K. cancel that question. The Bible says "he," and I think those pronouns are specific in Greek. They are in Hebrew. My thought pattern was this: the Crusades were a nasty occurrence. There was one women's crusade that was far more brutal than when the men went. But by far, the most vicious was when it was children.

I think the dude is alive today, if the time is near. Something Dan mentioned in the last chapters of his "book" on Jesus was the concept of blindness. "The heart is deceitful above all things..." so the dude will probably never recognize who he is (if we are to believe that knowing gives one the ability to act) until it's too late. He won't be able to backtrack.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/25/2014 08:17 PM

shasta I think the dude is alive today, if the time is near.


S - As you know, I think the time is most definitely near. It's my opinion that the time is much nearer than the average Christian thinks. The "Rap" is going to catch a majority of Christians by surprise. It seems people today are so caught up in trivial matters such as being on Facebook, tv programs and internet websites (including this one to a small degree). God has given us the 4 Blood Moons as a sign. Plus, we have what Rabbi Jonathan Cahn has informed us about ... the Shemitah. People just need to pay attention!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/25/2014 08:29 PM

I like that, KoG: the Rap. If what you say is true, that Christ's return will catch many Christians by surprise, then I'm thinkin' we've lumped too many people into the catch-all term "Christian." Those who know and love Him will be prepared. Those who have their eyes set on the ends of the earth, will not be prepared.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/26/2014 12:05 AM

S - I agree with all that you said. I need to clarify my comment about the majority of Christians being caught by surprise in regards to the Rap. By that I mean I believe a majority of believers do not think we are as near as I believe we are to the "catching up" / "catching away." I have talked to a lot of believers in the last several months. From my discussions with them, it is my opinion from these talks that many believe we are indeed in end times but not within a year or two. As you know, I think we have less than 12 months. That's why I have been so vocal about God/Jesus/Salvation. If I thought we had 5 years, I wouldn't be a fraction as vocal. After all, ETERNITY is at stake. I am talking about FOREVER with no end and no hope if one is lost. It will be too late.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/26/2014 01:09 AM

Well, KoG, let me contemplate that some more. Gotta reread the parable of the virgins - 5 foolish and was it 5 wise? They were all expecting the bridegroom to come. But the 5 foolish ones got tired of waiting (not to mention the fact that they were NOT prepared with oil in their lamps) and they fell asleep! The bridegroom came while they were asleep! Hmmmmmmmm.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/26/2014 09:33 PM

S - I look forward to reading what you think the parable means.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/26/2014 10:34 PM

Hello KoG! Last night I was trying to figure out if it was parable or parabole! So this little "study" ought to be REAL inneresting!

On my way to bed last night, I did think about the number of virgins: TEN. Ten is the number of judgment, hence the TEN commandments. Did you know that what we translate as "commandments" is understood in Hebrew as "words?" In our modern age, we've lost the comprehension that our words carry much weight, having an effect more far-flung than we imagine...........
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/27/2014 11:55 AM

Indeed, S.

From the Bible, "Death and life are in the power of the tongue...."
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/27/2014 03:42 PM

Hello KoG! Very good verse from James! I hadn't thought about it until you mentioned it.

Imagine, if we meant what we said, there'd be no need for contracts! If we understood personal responsibility/civic responsibility, there'd be no need for lawsuits! How 'bout just reading Exodus 21 and 22 - all about harm being done and paying restitution?

I love it!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/29/2014 10:53 AM

S - Have you researched the 10 Virgins parable yet? I have and am awaiting your results so we can compare notes.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/29/2014 01:39 PM

Don't rush me, for heaven's sake! I mean, it's ONLY been 3 days! And in the morning too! I cain't get no reschpect.

If it doesn't happen today (got several things on my platter) then it should happen tomorrow - when I have less things on my platter.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/30/2014 10:41 AM

Wow, a platter and not just a plate! Okay, I'll be waiting.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 11/30/2014 08:00 PM

DISCLAIMER: This is only my feeble, superficial attempt to understand the parable of the Ten Virgins. This ain't no in-depth, scholarly treatise, o.k. KoG?

I find it interesting that Jesus once again introduces the parable by saying this is what the Kingdom of Heaven is like. People are called to come in. Some make it and some don't. Virgins, of course, are a symbol of purity. I find it interesting that the virgins were going to meet the Bridegroom, when culturally-speaking, they were the bride's attendants. They ALL took their oil lamps, to guide their way. But 5 took extra oil, just in case they might need it, and 5 did not plan ahead.

The Bridegroom "lingered" and they ALL got tired waiting and they ALL fell asleep. The problem is not in falling asleep. It's in not having the "forethought" to bring extra oil. At the appointed time, there was a shout, announcing the arrival of the Bridegroom and ALL the virgins woke up and they ALL began to "put their lamps in order," to prepare for the journey. The foolish virgins, who hadn't thought ahead, saw that their lamps were going out and asked the 5 wise virgins for more oil. The answer is chilling: "There will not be enough for US and you; go instead to the dealers and buy for yourselves."

While they were gone, buying more oil, the Bridegroom came and the 5 wise virgins went in with Him to the marriage feast and the door was shut. Boom. After getting the necessary oil, the 5 foolish virgins came (they made it through the journey) and banging on the door, asked for admittance. The Bridegroom answers with the most important statement of all, "I NEVER KNEW YOU." This is followed by the admonition to watch, because we do not know the "day or the hour when the Son of Man will come."

How many times do we ask someone, "Do you know Jesus?" According to this, we need to be asking, "Does Jesus know YOU?" That's the final qualifier. All 10 virgins were invited and specially chosen, or called. Five took the invitation and calling seriously. They realized that their thoughts were not necessarily going to match up with God's. So they prepared to have enough oil with them, just in case their ideas of timing weren't aligned with reality/truth.

Oil is the symbol of the Holy Spirit. But, in toodling around through the Scriptures, I find three distinct categories; oil for dedicating to a purpose, oil for healing and oil producing light to guide the way. Without the Holy Spirit's guidance, we will get lost.

Your turn, KoG!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/01/2014 09:06 PM

shasta All 10 virgins were invited and specially chosen, or called. Five took the invitation and calling seriously.


S - What I quoted above from your reply is exactly what I think the parable is about: five taking the invitation seriously. The other five were merely going through the motions in their "belief." You and I are in alignment. Very good!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/01/2014 10:57 PM

I have a new thought - for me "new." I think all 10 virgins were excited to receive an invitation. They all took it seriously enough to travel a certain distance and bring their lamps - a certain amount of personal preparation. So, it takes 2 things to go in: an invitation and sufficient personal preparation. It was in the area of personal preparation that the 5 foolish virgins fell short. You called it "going through the motions." I agree, to an extent. Gotta think about it some more if there's any hope of me explaining myself better.

"Those who come to God must first believe that He is, and that He is the rewarder of those who diligently seek Him."
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/02/2014 12:09 AM

By my saying, "going through the motions," I equate that, for instances, to those who may attend church every time the church doors are open, but they have never actually understood that their salvation comes from having made Jesus their personal Savior. They have been "going through the motions" thinking they somehow have "earned" salvation and do not understand that it's a free gift from God by simply accepting and believing in their hearts that Jesus took the punishment for their/our sins via the cross. They are the five foolish virgins in my opinion.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/02/2014 12:28 AM

You know KoG, I'm task-oriented, not relationship-oriented. But an intellectual "knowing" won't cut it. It has to be personal, intimate - something from the heart. Jesus has to be more than a personal valet.

Earning salvation is something else again. Until I can make man out of dirt and make my own dirt out of nothing, there's no way I can earn salvation. An honest look at myself and all my failings ought to convince me that I cannot make it on my own merit. I have no merit.

And yet, God desires to have a personal relationship with me, the one with no merit. He doesn't need me. He WANTS me. Now that's an impressive difference!

Those who are going through the motions do indeed believe that their personal performance will count for something = salvation. They've also lost their first love, like the church in Ephesus. Despite the fact that I'm task-oriented, I can't think of anything worse than just going through the motions, hoping just maybe God might be real, etc. I have to KNOW! Fortunately, I do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/02/2014 10:35 AM

shasta So, it takes 2 things to go in: an invitation and sufficient personal preparation. It was in the area of personal preparation that the 5 foolish virgins fell short. You called it "going through the motions." I agree, to an extent.


Good Morning S - I hope you had a good night's sleep!

I'm curious to know what it is above that you agree "to an extent" or has it been resolved with my clarification posted last night?

Concerning your mention of "sufficient personal preparation" being one of two things required "to go," I would respectfully disagree. I believe the only "preparation" is the receiving of the Good News which is that Jesus has died for us, and all we each need to do is believe it in our hearts and that He has suffered our punishment for us as sinners. It requires that we do nothing but to believe. I think one of the two thieves who was cruxified next to Jesus is a good example of not needing any sufficient personal preparation. All that was required of him was to believe in who Jesus said He is. That one thief did as he hung on the cross. The other thief on the other side of Jesus mocked Him saying if He is indeed the Son of God as Jesus claimed then He should remove them and Himself from their cross(es). Jesus said to the repentant thief that he would be with Him in Paradise that very day. So again, no personal preparation is needed or required. It's all what Jesus has done for us. All we each have to do is believe it and accept it as a gift.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/03/2014 01:18 AM

Hi KoG. I had a lousy night. Might have to switch that mattress back around again. Just not comfortable turned. I had a big job to do today. And I learned there was a high school basketball game this evening. So I went to the JV game. "My" boy wasn't even there, and he isn't signed up for hockey. I hope he's snowboarding - if we get snow. Anyhow, I'm bushed.

But ain't we having a rip-roaring discussion here? To learn what I'm going to say next, study a US quarter!!! "Next" will hopefully be tomorrow. Afternoon or evening prolly.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/03/2014 09:38 AM

E - I'm sorry to hear of your bad night. Hopefully, your next night will be better.

Interesting your comment about a quarter and how it will relate to what you plan to talk about. I grabbed two different quarters from my change box. One is the "old school" type and the other is one of the 50 State quarters. I didn't know Washington is known as "The Evergreen State" and was founded in 1889. Both have "In God We Trust" and "Liberty." I look forward to your next posting.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/03/2014 10:06 PM

Top o' the Evenin' to ya, KoG! What else does one say at 6:30 at night? So you found your quarter! Did you study it well? Actually, any coin will do, or paper for that matter. The point is: on one side you have George Washington and on the other side you have the eagle with sheaves of something in his talons. No matter which side you look at, it's still a quarter - 25 cents.

I totally agree with you that all that's necessary is to "believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord." Contrast that with James 2:17 Amplified, "So also faith, if it does not have works (deeds and actions of obedience to back it up), by itself is destitute of power." We cannot accept one side and refuse the other. They are BOTH truth.

I explain it this way: Believe in your heart, confess with your mouth and if that belief is real, an inner transformation takes place (Romans 12:2) that conducts one into a life of "works." I like the Amplified's oft-added comment, "hearing, receiving, loving and obeying." Hearing is the first step. Receiving is absolutely necessary. But if that receiving isn't followed up with loving and obeying...

I said I was task-oriented, not relationship-oriented. But that doesn't color my belief. I know lots of people. But there are very few who are "bosom buddies." Jesus had lots of people following Him. But He only had 12 disciples, and of the 12, only 3 were really, really close. I'm not saying only the 12 (minus Mr. Iscariot) or only the 3 are "saved." But we know that some who professed belief, fell away and stopped following. Judas professed belief, and he betrayed Jesus.

What we DO, following our profession of faith in Jesus Christ confirms the genuineness of our profession. And I'm not at ALL into making a big show of it all. Jesus condemned that. Many of my "works" are quite hidden from others. But the "God who sees in secret, will reward openly." I count on that and not the praise of men which can be here today and gone tomorrow. We have to LISTEN to what God tells us. We have to KNOW who we are created to be and what His call is on our lives. Then, if belief is genuine and that transformation has taken place, we will have the works - or what I earlier called, "personal preparation."

The 5 wise virgins demonstrate the genuineness of their "belief," through their personal preparation: they brought extra flasks of oil, in case the bridegroom tarried, which is exactly what happened.

The 5 foolish virgins demonstrate unbelief (no matter that they were invited and traveled a part of the way) by NOT bringing extra flasks of oil. They didn't have the qualifying "works" and they didn't get in.

O.K. the ball is in your court!!!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/03/2014 11:59 PM

Good Evening S - It was very busy towards the end of my workday this evening. E.R. was hopping. I had to work 1.5 hours of overtime in order to help get caught up before I felt comfortable leaving.

Anyway, I think you and I probably believe in the same thing; however, I'm still troubled by your term "personal preparation."

I have attached THIS LINK for you to read as I believe it to be ACCURATE regarding the subject of salvation and works. I think it would be easier for you to read it and then to let me know if it is in alignment with your beliefs of salvation and works.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/04/2014 12:31 AM

Manana!

If you have to be at work, it's best to be busy. But in your line of work, busy is never happy. If I'd make a good nurse, I'd be great in ER. But then I fear I'd fall apart afterwards. Can't have that.

I'm tired too. I had errands to run after Work #2, fixed some fancy fixins with my dinner, made a BD card AFTER searching out graphics. It's pouring down rain. Enough of today.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/04/2014 09:14 AM

Good Morning S - A quick correction to my last post. Instead of "salvation and works," I should have said "faith and works."
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/04/2014 11:05 AM

ALIGNED!!! Good explanation of what I was trying to say, in all my stumblings and bumblings - around.

I want you to know that blue sky DOES still exist! It's not all gray and rainy. Once I recovered from being awakened by the smell of burning garbage wafting in my window, I thought about the American "drought busters."

We had ZERO NorCal concerts in 2013. We had an extremely DRY summer and horrendous fire season. America had 3 concerts in Arizona, Nevada and at CalExpo where it rained, either to the point of cutting the concerts short, or at least giving us all a good cooling off. The morning after their 7 Feathers concert in Oregon, it was raining.

In their wisdom, San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Diego voted to take more of the water we DON'T have up here and ship it to SoCal. So, if you're gonna get any water, maybe the American Drought Busters should schedule more NorCal concerts in 2015??? Or Rich Campbell should consider a speaking tour in SoCal, explaining the condition of Shasta and Oroville lakes??? I vote for more NorCal concerts, of course!!!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/04/2014 08:29 PM

shasta ALIGNED!!!


I'm very pleased!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/04/2014 09:46 PM

Good Evening KoG! I'm pleased you're pleased!!! The following little tidbit is what I was trying to stammer out: the notion of perspective. Remember the quarter? It's STILL a quarter, whether your perspective is looking at George Washington's face, or from the flip-side perspective of the eagle! I actually did well in coming up with the word "confirm," don't you think???

"James and Paul do not disagree in their teaching regarding salvation. They approach the same subject from different perspectives. Paul simply emphasized that justification is by faith alone while James put emphasis on the fact that genuine faith in Christ produces good works."

Now, what other mischief can we find to get into??? TeeHee. Actually I already found mine. But it's all mine and it has nothing to do with this website. I'm on the warpath.


Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/05/2014 12:03 AM

Here's another thought for you: if we flip a quarter, it will be either "heads" or "tails," right? Not necessarily. Can you tell me why?

You said: "I actually did well in coming up with the word 'confirm,' don't you think???" Please remind me. I'm having a memory lapse.

Okay, what other mischief? Here's one: what are your thoughts on alleged UFOs and aliens? I'm not talking about the aliens Pres. Obama wants to make legal, LOL. Are UFOs and extraterrestials real? Did God create the ETs? I have my thoughts. What's yours?
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/05/2014 10:03 AM

Hi S - Before tackling the topics in the prior message of mine (that is if you even choose to), how about discussing the subject of reincarnation?
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/05/2014 01:18 PM

"This mission, should you accept it..." I never liked Mission Impossible.

Nevertheless, Good Morning KoG! A fine rainy, gray morning to you - but hey, we're getting rain so SoCal can ship it down there, add chemicals to it and drink it! Garooooovy, cool.

This thread is gonna flip me out yet. I'm glad you offered reincarnation instead of the spacey theme! I haven't a firm opinion on the former, but I lean towards the NO side of things. Saw an article that addresses the issue. Will have to go find it. Have you read C.S. Lewis' Space Trilogy? I prefer his forerunner, George MacDonald. But Lewis did a good job on the Space Trilogy.

"It is appointed ONCE for man to die. Then after that, the judgment." Hebrews 9:27. And "God said, Let Us make mankind in Our image, after Our likeness, and let them have complete authority over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the beasts, and over all of the earth, and over everything that creeps upon the earth. So God created man in His own image, in the image and likeness of God He created him; male and female He created them." Genesis 1:26, 27.

I was created a female human being made in the image of God. I will die once and after that I will be judged.

Confirm = validate = justify??? From my post 12/03/14, 4th paragraph.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/05/2014 08:46 PM

S - If man is appointed to die once and then face judgement (I'm going with DanP's way of spelling "judgment" in remembrance of him), why then do some people seem to remember with great accuracy past lives that have been proven through historical records?
Edited by King_of_Glass on 12/05/2014 08:48 PM
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/05/2014 10:07 PM

KoG, OOOOOOOOOOOOOh, now you playin' with FIRE!

O.K. if you have a differing opinion, spell it out and defend your opinion with "2 or 3 witnesses," like I did, if you please!

I shall reschpectfully decline, for the moment, to post a direct answer to your question.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/05/2014 10:25 PM

No, S, my thoughts do not differ from yours. I believe the Bible is accurate. I'm just curious to find out what you think about people who have such experiences. I'm curious to see if our opinions align again.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/06/2014 01:26 PM

IF a person's experiences line up with the Word of God, o.k. If they don't, or if their interpretation of those experiences doesn't line up, then there is a problem. Someone's personal experiences are not the highest validater of Truth, just because, "The heart is deceitful and desperately wicked above all things..." Jeremiah???
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/06/2014 01:49 PM

S - Below is a quote I found on the net that sums up why I think some people have past life memories:

"The claim of some that they have information of past history is nothing more than some kind of encounter with demonic powers who have been present throughout history."

Satan and his demons are cunning! They will try their best to interfere with man and his eternal soul.

So, again you and I are in alignment!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/06/2014 09:19 PM

This evening I'm not so sure I'm in alignment with any... Calamity Jane here decided to put up the new sensor for the new weather thingy, right? Had to take down the old holder and put up the new, right? My electric drill wouldn't cut the mustard (little tiny screws) so I had to use a screwdriver. Well, my back, neck and shoulders are feeling VERY unhappy. I need to roll out my back and I'm sure that will line me back up again!!! TeeHee.

In the end, I had to remove the new holder because it was squeezed into a little tiny space and wouldn't hold the sensor. Perhaps tomorrow will be the day I get the new weather thingy up???
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/07/2014 12:15 PM

S - I'm back with another question. Speaking of "back," I hope yours is feeling better.

Question: Do you think there will be animals in Heaven?
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/07/2014 01:45 PM

Good Morning KoG! My everything is better! Last night I spent time sitting with my microwaved "bean bag" on my shoulders and that took care of the stiffness from my weather thingy adventure. Question: Do I try again today to mount the thing, or not? Will have to find a new location, and I've got one. But I'd have to drill through fiber cement siding and I don't think I wanna try. Sure can't do it by hand. Now, I do have an idea! There's already a big nail hanging up in the vicinity of where I want to put the thing. I can get some blasting wire (very handy stuff, and without the blasting caps, I can assure you) and wire the holder on, then just slide in the sensor! Aha!

In heaven? I'm not sure about animals in heaven. Haven't made up my mind about that, because I can't find Scriptural support either way. However, there will be "new heavens and a new earth" created and I fully expect to see all kinds of aminals (deliberate) floating around! Remember too in Isaiah where it talks about the lion laying down with the lamb and a little child playing in front of the adder's den?

I always used to say I was going to be keeper of the dogs when I got to heaven, because I just love dogs. Then I decided all the aborted babies needed somebody to take care of them! Perhaps I'll do both! And I only want the BIG dogs, not little yappers.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/07/2014 02:25 PM

S - I agree that the Scriptures do not specifically address whether animals will be present in Heaven. However, it's just my personal belief that those of us who have had pets that have passed away and that were very near and dear to us, we will see them again. I believe God will give them back to us. But, will every animal that has ever lived on earth still have a life in the next kingdom? No, I don't believe so. It would serve no purpose. However, I say: why wouldn't someone's beloved pet be there in Heaven with its owner if there's a white horse present?

“Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war.” (Revelation 19:11)

The one called "Faithful and True" is Jesus. If I have it correct, each one of us believers will be returning with Him as we also each ride on a white horse. This will occur immediately after the 7 year tribulation.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/07/2014 03:52 PM

shasta I always used to say I was going to be keeper of the dogs when I got to heaven, because I just love dogs. Then I decided all the aborted babies needed somebody to take care of them! Perhaps I'll do both!


The sightless who lived on earth as believers will have their sight restored in Heaven. Those who have died with other physical handicaps as well as those with mental limitations, I believe, will be restored to whole in the next life. Likewise, those who have died as aborted babies, I also believe, will be restored whole as totally self-functioning human beings the minute they leave this life and enter the next. Plus, as believers, we all will have gloried bodies on Resurrection Day.

Isaiah 35:5-6 New International Version (NIV)

5 Then will the eyes of the blind be opened
and the ears of the deaf unstopped.
6 Then will the lame leap like a deer,
and the mute tongue shout for joy.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/07/2014 07:56 PM

On the other hand, KoG, perhaps every abandoned and abused animal will also be present! Just reward for what they suffered in this world! And you make a good point about aborted babies and I might add in abused children! Perhaps I won't be taking care of any of them. But I will get the privilege of meeting them - a privilege I was denied in this life!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/08/2014 12:09 AM

S - Your mention of abused children brought this song to mind, I WILL BE WAITING FOR YOU, by David and The Giants. And, yes, wouldn't that be wonderful if all abused and abandoned animals had a life in Heaven!
Edited by King_of_Glass on 12/08/2014 12:12 AM
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/08/2014 01:15 AM

Hi KoG. I haven't listened to your song. But here's mine: Lenny LeBlanc and Kelly Willard from Hosanna! Integrity Music. He is none other than the Lenny LeBlanc who co-wrote "Desperate Love" which America recorded back in the trio days. I wonder if Dan Peek ever met Lenny? Kelly Willard did a lot of background vocals on these recordings. She first came to my attention when she was part of Last Days Ministries - Keith and Melody Green - in Lindale, Texas.

There is None Like You

"Suffering children are safe in your arms," always makes me cry.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/08/2014 10:58 AM

That's a very nice song, S. I have heard it before. We may have sung it as a praise song at the church I last attended. Or, perhaps, I've heard it performed by Michael W. Smith. Whichever the case, it's nice. Regarding Lenny LeBlanc's co-written song, "Desperate Love," look back real closely at exactly when it was recorded by America. (wink)

Say, I was thinking last night on the area of confession. Here's a case for you:

Hypothetically, if someone like O.J. Simpson (someone who claims his innocence inspite of his obvious guilt) asked for God's forgiveness for murdering his ex-wife and her friend Ron Goldman yet he still denies it to the public, is he forgiven by God even though he professes his innocence to everyone else?
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/08/2014 02:07 PM

He who speaks with fork-ed tongue... Good grief, ask me a trick question at this time of day, on this day, in this weather? You askin' too much KoG! A funny thing happened this morning! I looked at the clock and thought it said 8:30, when in reality it was NINE:30? C'est la vie. I haven't recovered from the shock.

Nope. I don't think so. The message has got to be the same, no matter who you're talking to. You can use different words, or emphasize different parts of the message. But the message has to be the same.

Question for you now - taken from one of George MacDonald's Gothic romances, "Malcolm." The Michael Phillips edited version is entitled, "The Fisherman's Lady." IF the devil repented and asked forgiveness, would he get to heaven???
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/08/2014 03:23 PM

No trick question, S. Trix are for kids, and you ain't no kid. Well, at heart, yes! It really wasn't intended to be a trick. It was a sincere question.

I believe if a murderer has true repentance, he/she would ask for forgiveness from God and confess it to both God and man. Although, I must say, he/she would only need to have the matter settled between God and himself/herself.

Regarding your question, my answer is that Satan will never repent and ask God for forgiveness. God has told us so in his Word. Any sin is forgivable by God except the sin of denying that Jesus is the Savior.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/08/2014 08:57 PM

Did you ever eat Trix for breakfast, as a kid, KoG? I did occasionally. But my wise mother figured it was too much sugar and food coloring. So I usually got rice krispies, puffed wheat or "broom straw," otherwise known as shredded wheat!

Remind me of WHERE the Bible says satan will never repent. I don't recall. And I beg to differ with you: the unforgiveable sin is denying the Holy Spirit! Matthew 12:31,32.

And I DO believe I should take serious offense!!! You are insinuating that I'm OLD? Well I never! It's such a serious offense I shall be resulted (insulted) for all eternity. O.K. now that eternity's over... TeeHee.

Back to dinner.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/08/2014 11:30 PM

shasta Remind me of WHERE the Bible says satan will never repent. I don't recall. And I beg to differ with you: the unforgiveable sin is denying the Holy Spirit! Matthew 12:31,32.



Yes, the unforgiveable sin is denying the Holy Spirit. HOWEVER, S, what exactly is denying the Holy Spirit today (or "blaspheming the Holy Spirit" as it is also called)? In other words, what does a person do to be guilty of this act today, I must ask you?

Concerning where in the Bible does it says Satan will never repent?

Revelation 20:10 (New King James Version):

"The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."

Ain't got repentance! Otherwise, Satan wouldn't be roasting 24/7 for eternity, no?

Indeed, your mom was wise to feed you "broom straw" instead of Trix. That's okay...I ate enough sugary cereal for both of us (and still do)!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/09/2014 12:46 AM

Well, I'm home from the board meeting and I survived the ordeal. Praise God for this forum and a chance to think about something different!!!

First topic: I shall delay my answer until tomorrow when I hope to be thinking more clearly.

Second topic: Yes I understand. Glad you provided the address. But, hypothetically speaking...

Cereal is a dreadful invention, in my opinion. I don't own any and don't want to EVER own any! If you're gonna eat something like that, though, at least eat "cruel gruel" or oatmeal. I like my crustless quiche, composed of eggs, milk, onions, spinach and fried bacon. Absolutely yummy and very nutritious. Wash it all down with a rousing glass of grapefruit juice and I'm ready to ... brush my teeth!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/09/2014 10:41 AM

shasta Second topic: Yes I understand. Glad you provided the address. But, hypothetically speaking...


Good Morning S - I'm looking forward to your reply concerning what "denying the Holy Spirit" means today and whether Satan will ever repent. By the way, what address are you referring to above? Are you meaning the Scripture quote?

Will be going to vote this evening locally on the issue of whether a person is required to provide an ID to vote. I wonder if I'll need to provide an ID to vote on whether an ID should be required to vote? LOL. I guess I'll find out this evening.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/09/2014 02:48 PM

Morning, KoG. After the meeting last night, I find my thoughts still busy with all the goings on. I'm unable to focus anywhere else right now. However, I did find this yesterday, which provides an interesting answer, along with my normal thoughts on the subject, but also giving me deeper insight that I previously had:

Read This

Will satan ever repent? No. But my question is hypothetical. I feel it's an important one, because it forces one to dig deep on the subject of God's love. Yep, I meant the Scripture reference.

Voting is getting to be an interesting event, isn't it? Perhaps I should say that candidates and ballot issues are getting to be interesting. Actually, they have been for a LONG time. I could do with a lot more honesty and straight-forwardness, frankly.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/09/2014 09:06 PM

S - Your "Read This" link is unreadable. Perhaps you can try again.

Well, they didn't ask me for an ID whatsoever when I went to vote on the Voter ID issue. They merely asked me for my address, my DOB and name.
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/09/2014 10:47 PM

You're right, KoG; it's unreadable. Here's what I did to make it work for me.

Click on the "Read This" that I typed as a title

When the next window comes up that says this is unreadable or whatever, Go to the address line up top and delete the http://

Hit Return and you should get the webpage I referred to.

And your signature, right? They did ask for your signature? Here we have to show ID if the election workers don't know us.

It's been an interesting day with emails back and forth with school board members, the superintendent, one principal, a meeting with the principal, phone messages from the high school principal, daycare and hockey practice. Am ready to curl up and relax!

Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/10/2014 01:13 AM

Yes, S, she did ask me to sign my name at the voting place.

I was able to read the information as find under your link, "Read This," the way you gave me instructions. I read the entire article.

Let us recap how you and I arrived at this point. I stated the following:

JY: "Any sin is forgivable by God except the sin of denying that Jesus is the Savior."

S: "And I beg to differ with you: the unforgiveable sin is denying the Holy Spirit! Matthew 12:31,32."

JY: "Yes, the unforgiveable sin is denying the Holy Spirit. HOWEVER, S, what exactly is denying the Holy Spirit today (or "blaspheming the Holy Spirit" as it is also called)? In other words, what does a person do to be guilty of this act today, I must ask you."

Below is what I believe is the gist of the "Read This" article you pointed me to:

"It is unequivocally clear that the one unforgivable sin is permanently rejecting Christ (John 3:18; 3:36). Thus, speaking against the Holy Spirit is equivalent to rejecting Christ with such finality that no future repentance is possible."

S, you begged to differ yet what you referred me to is EXACTLY what I said which is that the unforgivable sin is denying that Jesus is the Savior. Or, as the article said: "It is unequivocally clear that the one unforgivable sin is permanently rejecting Christ (John 3:18; 3:36)."

Want to reconsider your begging? :)
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/12/2014 12:14 PM

Hello KoG. No, I don't think I wanna reconsider my "I beg to differ with you." I think rather, that I would like to reconsider how I think about the issue!

Be back later to finish this. Got a quickie appointment!!!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/12/2014 02:47 PM

O.K. KoG. I'm back from my impromptu appointment. The advantage of living in a small town; you can usually SQUEEZE in!

As I was saying, before I had to drop everything and run, The response I read and then referred you to made me realize a weakness in my belief system. And I don't even know if I can verbalize that weakness. But I compartmentalized my belief in the "Three in One" rather than realizing that an unbelief in one part of the Trinity really equates an unbelief in the whole! Does that make any sense?
Put a little differently; I didn't comprehend that unbelief in Jesus' miracles was not just an affront to the Holy Spirit, by which all miracles arrive, but really was an affront to Jesus and ultimately the Father, even though that Person of the Trinity wasn't specifically mentioned.

This discovery makes me VERY nervous about those people who refuse to believe that miracles occur today. There are accusations flying around that all miracles are fakes, brought about by the devil. And we know that in the last days, the devil will indeed deceive people by working miracles. But that just points out the absolutely necessity of KNOWING Jesus and also of knowing by whom an individual is working miracles! It all comes back to relationship, which enables discernment, doesn't it? An intellectual knowing falls short.

So, I stand corrected!!!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/13/2014 01:55 AM

S - Just got home from the company Christmas party. Will comment tomorrow about what all you said. Until then, good to be back in alignment with you!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
King_of_Glass
Member

Posts: 2386

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/13/2014 02:02 PM

Good Morning/Afternoon S - I thought perhaps I had a few more things to say on the matter, but I don't believe I do other than to say it's all still a learning process for all of us. I certainly know it is for me.
Edited by King_of_Glass on 12/13/2014 02:04 PM
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator
shasta
Member

Posts: 1901

Re: Dan's Ministry Writings
Posted on: 12/13/2014 08:10 PM

And a Good Afternoon to You, KoG! Wow! You really partied heartied! Our staff party was last night, amidst pouring down rain. Was real tempted to stay home. I went to see who fraternizes with whom and was amused to see that I was watched as much as I was watching! Learned some interesting tidbits. The food was good and a great variety. We had a white elephant gift exchange, which is a kick. I had #1 and opened a remote control tank set - just what I needed, right? Well, the principal stole that from me right away. It got stolen from him and then he stole it back. Nobody dared take away from him a second time! I got to open 4 different gifts and the last one I traded for something one of the teachers opened that was more useful than what I had! Despite being an introvert, I circulated well during the 2 hours I was there. Those people don't really know how to have fun! The noise level was horrendous, but no laughter at all until the white elephant gift exchange, and I was the main one laughing! It was very poorly attended, which is interesting. The house it was held in was very big, open floor plan, very nice.

This morning was hockey. I was busy helping kids put on jerseys, and pleased to see 3 girls playing. I've just kinda fiddled around this afternoon. Went to the store. Ate some lunch. Cleaned up the kitchen. Hauled the studs and snow shovels out of the basement and put the hoses down in the basement. Leftovers for dinner tonight - yay! Gotta go pick tomatoes in the garage. I'm afraid tonight they will freeze. Maybe I'll be lazy and cover 'em with a blanket!!!
Back to top Back to top Quote Quote  Report this post to administrator Report this post to administrator

Reply Reply

phpWebSite (c) Appalachian State University - is licensed under the GNU LGPL and GNU GPL..
Web designer Campbell Media Services